On „Meet the Press“ Sunday, Giuliani said, „Look, I am not going to be rushed into having him testify so that he gets trapped into perjury. And when you tell me that, you know, he should testify because he’s going to tell the truth and he shouldn’t worry, well that’s so silly because it’s somebody’s version of the truth. Not the truth.“
„Truth is truth,“ Todd said.
„No, it isn’t truth. Truth isn’t truth,“ Giuliani said. „The President of the United States says, ‚I didn’t …'“
„Truth isn’t truth?“ Todd replied, adding, „This is going to become a bad meme.“
Giuliani continued, „Donald Trump says I didn’t talk about Flynn with Comey. Comey says you did talk about it, so tell me what the truth is.“