The two are not critical of those who didn’t have the strength to resist and rise up, instead going “like sheep to the slaughter.” In one conversation Rotem asked why Jews just went to the incinerators. “Only because they were hungry,” he replied.

Edelman disagreed, but Rotem insisted. “Listen, man. Marek, I’m surprised by your attitude. They only went because they were hungry. Even if they’d known what awaited them they would have walked into the gas chambers. You and I would have done the same.”

Edelman cut him off. “You would never have gone [to the gas chambers, O.A.]. Rotem replied, “I’m not so sure. I was never that hungry.” Edelman agreed, saying: “I also wasn’t that hungry,” to which Rotem said, “That’s why you didn’t go.”