MY GOODMAN: Alex de Waal, I’d like to bring you into this conversation. You’re executive director of the World Peace Foundation at Tufts University, author of Mass Starvation: The History and Future of Famine. You’re working with Forensic Architecture on their report. We have just heard that in the last day 19 people, including at least one infant, have died of starvation in Gaza. Can you talk about why this is happening?

ALEX DE WAAL: So, let me say that I’ve been working on this field of famine, food crisis and humanitarian action for more than 40 years, and there is no case, over those four decades, of such minutely engineered, closely monitored, precisely designed mass starvation of a population as is happening in Gaza today.