(21.4.2017) Mr Hager says that governments use the fear of terrorism to extend their surveillance powers.

„It‘s kind of like: ‚come on children, be scared of terrorism, and don‘t question what‘s going on‘,“ he says.

„Our GCSB – who will say that they study terrorism – have hardly got any staff allocated to terrorism. They‘ve got people spying on the Pacific Islands, in India, and Japan, and Antarctica and all these different part of the world.“

This year our government made it legal for the GCSB to spy on Kiwis, raising fears about privacy.

„There is mounting public concern with surveillance and this is involved with mass surveillance of New Zealanders,“ activist John Minto says.