„We had a really, really fierce discussion, myself and the prime minister, yesterday in parliament,“ he tells me in his office. „I said, and it irritated the prime minister a lot: ‚Have you ever heard about the Soviet Union? They said it was everlasting, and it was not. Now they say the euro and the European Union are everlasting, but it is not. If we run out of money and morals, there will be destruction one day.'“