QUESTION:.. it seems like the city of Donetsk has come under some heavy shelling —

MS. HARF: Yes.

QUESTION: — apparently by Ukrainian forces. Do you have any comment on that?

MS. HARF: We do. We’re watching that. Obviously, we’ve stressed the importance of showing restraint to minimize casualties among the civilian – the local population. Ukrainian forces are seeking to dislodge the separatists from Luhansk and Donetsk. The separatists, as we’ve seen, have chosen to operate from heavily populated areas. We’ve called on the Ukrainians to take every step to avoid the local population as they try to free the city from the separatists.

QUESTION: But do you support the specific use of heavy artillery that could carry the risk of civilian casualties in order to do that?

MS. HARF: We’ve called on them not to use weapons that could increase that. But again, we’re very supportive of the Ukrainians here. It’s a tough fight they’re in, and we do think that the ultimate goal here needs to be these cities not being under the control of the separatists.