RADDATZ: Should Russia be considered an enemy?

HAGEL: Well, you know, it‘s easy to categorize an enemy. We‘re not at war with Russia.

So do you find — do you define an enemy as being at war or not at war?

Obviously, we…

RADDATZ: Adversary?

HAGEL: — an adversary in Ukraine, sure. But — but I — I think that‘s a little simplistic to get into — to either enemy, friend, partner, so on.